Success!! CM "No Devices Found" Solved!!

[smilinjack]

To Steph and others who have suffered with the "XP SP2 Bug", symptom thereof the dreaded "No Devices Found" message in Control Manager V-xx, my session with Michael directing solved the problem.
The solution (on my machine at least):
1) Unplug all CH Controllers
2) Via REGEDIT, go to HK_Local_Machine/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/ENUM--
Delete the HID and USB folders
3) Via Device Manager, uninstall all entries (chipset, hubs, etc.) under "Universal Serial Bus Controllers AND all entries under Human Interface Devices
4) Re-boot and let XP re-discover and as a consequence re-install the USB Controllers, Root Hubs, etc.
5) Re-connect each CH controller, verifying each in the Game Controllers applet as the correct entry, ALL CAPS, and test input via the Properties tab
6) Run the Control Manager (I installed 3.5 prior to doing this as I had uninstalled 3.0 waiting to connect with Michael. You may want to verify that you do not have to re-install the CM w/ Michael or just bite the bullet and uninstall/reinstall anyway)
7) After running the CM, verify the CH controllers in the Game Controllers applet as being mixed upper/lower case as listed, indicating the CM did its thing and installed the CH drivers for your devices.
8) Enjoy your re-birth, I suggest by attacking any conveyance within which Gates may be riding.

I'm sure that Michael may edit this or post his own version. As I mentioned, he directed, I just fingered and plugged. He certainly deserves the Kudos he gets and I'll add mine for his attention and patience.
Good Luck to those who may attempt the surgery suggested in this thread. Relatively painless and much less agony than a reformat and fresh install of XP.
Thanks again Michael.
SmilinJack

[Steph]

Congratulations.
Will try when I get home.

Just one set of questions SJ,

When you say that the "CH PRO THROTTLE" in Control Panel/Game controllers becomes mixed Upper and lower case, is that before or after you have tried calibrtaing in CH Control Manager? In other words, at step 6 did you try calibration? And you didn't get the "There are no active devices message"? Or did you see the mixed upper/lower case entry in Game Controllers BEFORE you tried to calibrate in CH CM?

Hope I'm making my question clear..........

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by Steph@Oct 8 2004, 09:43 PM
Congratulations.
Will try when I get home.

Just one set of questions SJ,

When you say that the "CH PRO THROTTLE" in Control Panel/Game controllers becomes mixed Upper and lower case, is that before or after you have tried calibrtaing in CH Control Manager? In other words, at step 6 did you try calibration? And you didn't get the "There are no active devices message"? Or did you see the mixed upper/lower case entry in Game Controllers BEFORE you tried to calibrate in CH CM?

Hope I'm making my question clear..........
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Steph,
After the CM runs (and the indication of all the device discoveries/driver installs that will be generated as a result of the cm running (or installing in my case)), the entries in the Game Controller applet will show as mixed case. This is the indication that the drivers successfully installed. You shoud be good to go at that point.
I did not see any indication of "no active devices" during the process.
I think I remember that if CM does not "find" CH devices via query to XP, he will generate the "no active devices" message. The problem stems from the application of SP2, wherein Microsoft did not carry over any unsigned driver and/or did not update the registry appropriately based upon the action they did take. Effect was to leave no way for CM to detect the native device entry.
SmilinJack

[Steph]

Originally posted by smilinjack+Oct 8 2004, 09:54 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-Steph@Oct 8 2004, 09:43 PM
Congratulations.
Will try when I get home.

Just one set of questions SJ,

When you say that the "CH PRO THROTTLE" in Control Panel/Game controllers becomes mixed Upper and lower case, is that before or after you have tried calibrtaing in CH Control Manager? In other words, at step 6 did you try calibration? And you didn't get the "There are no active devices message"? Or did you see the mixed upper/lower case entry in Game Controllers BEFORE you tried to calibrate in CH CM?

Hope I'm making my question clear..........
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Steph,
After the CM runs (and the indication of all the device discoveries/driver installs that will be generated as a result of the cm running (or installing in my case)), the entries in the Game Controller applet will show as mixed case. This is the indication that the drivers successfully installed. You shoud be good to go at that point.
I did not see any indication of "no active devices" during the process.
I think I remember that if CM does not "find" CH devices via query to XP, he will generate the "no active devices" message. The problem stems from the application of SP2, wherein Microsoft did not carry over any unsigned driver and/or did not update the registry appropriately based upon the action they did take. Effect was to leave no way for CM to detect the native device entry.
SmilinJack
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So did you have CM installed when you did the registry cleanup and redetect, or did you install it afterwards?
And when you removed the HID and USB devices in the Device Manager, did you remove the CH Root, Aux1 and Aux2 as well?

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by Steph+Oct 8 2004, 09:59 PM-->Originally posted by smilinjack@Oct 8 2004, 09:54 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Steph@Oct 8 2004, 09:43 PM
Congratulations.
Will try when I get home.

Just one set of questions SJ,

When you say that the "CH PRO THROTTLE" in Control Panel/Game controllers becomes mixed Upper and lower case, is that before or after you have tried calibrtaing in CH Control Manager? In other words, at step 6 did you try calibration? And you didn't get the "There are no active devices message"? Or did you see the mixed upper/lower case entry in Game Controllers BEFORE you tried to calibrate in CH CM?

Hope I'm making my question clear..........
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Steph,
After the CM runs (and the indication of all the device discoveries/driver installs that will be generated as a result of the cm running (or installing in my case)), the entries in the Game Controller applet will show as mixed case. This is the indication that the drivers successfully installed. You shoud be good to go at that point.
I did not see any indication of "no active devices" during the process.
I think I remember that if CM does not "find" CH devices via query to XP, he will generate the "no active devices" message. The problem stems from the application of SP2, wherein Microsoft did not carry over any unsigned driver and/or did not update the registry appropriately based upon the action they did take. Effect was to leave no way for CM to detect the native device entry.
SmilinJack
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So did you have CM installed when you did the registry cleanup and redetect, or did you install it afterwards?
And when you removed the HID and USB devices in the Device Manager, did you remove the CH Root, Aux1 and Aux2 as well?
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I uninstalled CM prior to the exercise with Michael. I reinstalled CM 3.5 after operating on the registry and USB entries in the Device Manager.
In the device manager, I uninstalled ALL entries under Universal Serial Bus Controllers (the category entry) and ALL entries under Human Interface Devices (category entry).

[Steph]

But not the CH entries.............

Thanks. I'll try and report back

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by Steph@Oct 8 2004, 10:06 PM
But not the CH entries.............

Thanks. I'll try and report back
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I didn't have any "CH" entries under any category in the device manager. The only place the CH entries appeared prior to the exercise was in the Game Controller applet and they disappeared when I unplugged all three controllers prior to beginning the exercise with Michael.
My advice would be to unplug all usb devices, including the CH controllers, and uninstall CM, reboot and then begin the process I covered in my original post.
SmilinJack

[Steph]

When you install the CH Control Manager, the computer finds a Root Device, Aux1 and Aux2, and a HID keyboard and mouse.
The Root, Aux1 and Aux2 appear in device manager under a "CH Products" category

Anyway, let me give it a try.....

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by Steph@Oct 8 2004, 10:37 PM
When you install the CH Control Manager, the computer finds a Root Device, Aux1 and Aux2, and a HID keyboard and mouse.
The Root, Aux1 and Aux2 appear in device manager under a "CH Products" category

Anyway, let me give it a try.....
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That's right but remember I had uninstalled CM prior to the exercise and unplugged the devices.
Because of that, I had no "ch" entries in the Device Manager to deal with.
My OPINION, not DIRECTION, is to start where I started, i.e., CM uninstalled and the devices unplugged (gone from the system).
Good Luck.

[MichaelCHProd]

It would be best if I could walk people through this so if you are unsure CALL ME :)

Mon-Fri 0800-1600

760-598-2518
760-598-7833

I might be up on ICQ over the week end as well to help people.

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by MichaelCHProd@Oct 8 2004, 11:45 PM
It would be best if I could walk people through this so if you are unsure CALL MEÂ* :)

Mon-Fri 0800-1600

760-598-2518
760-598-7833

I might be up on ICQ over the week end as well to help people.
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Michael,
Afraid I'm not a very good stand-in.
Glad you're "back".
SmilinJack

[531_Ghost]

MICHAEL!
http://www.katrosephotography.com/gif/notworthy.gif
http://www.katrosephotography.com/gif/notworthy.gif
http://www.katrosephotography.com/gif/notworthy.gif

:cheers: :drunk:

[Steph]

A BIG THANKS TO MICHAEL AND MY OLD MATE SMILINJACK!!!!!!!!

Followed the instructions and I'm in business. CH Manager now sees the Pro Throttle!

Only wrinkle I had was deleting the HID and USB keys in the registry - it wouldn't let me do it until I fiddled with the permissions, but everything is copacetic now.

A big thanks to Michael and the excellent CH customer support for solving a MICROSOFT problem!!!!

[stelr]

Originally posted by Steph@Oct 8 2004, 09:41 PM
A BIG THANKS TO MICHAEL AND MY OLD MATE SMILINJACK!!!!!!!!

Followed the instructions and I'm in business. CH Manager now sees the Pro Throttle!

Only wrinkle I had was deleting the HID and USB keys in the registry - it wouldn't let me do it until I fiddled with the permissions, but everything is copacetic now.

A big thanks to Michael and the excellent CH customer support for solving a MICROSOFT problem!!!!
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I couldn't delete either file at first. Then I changed permissions to allow "full control." Then it allowed me to delete the HID folder, but still cannot delete the USB folder in RegEdit.

Can you elaborate on how you did this?

Thanks in advance.

v/r
Stel

[Steph]

I couldn't delete either file at first. Then I changed permissions to allow "full control." Then it allowed me to delete the HID folder, but still cannot delete the USB folder in RegEdit.

Can you elaborate on how you did this?

Thanks in advance.

v/r
Stel
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Stel
You need to R click the USB folder, choose "permissions" then add... your username, assuming you have admin priveliges. Then make sure your username has all the checkboxes ticked and you should be good to go.
Any probs, let me know and I'll post screenshots......

[MichaelCHProd]

BE CAREFUL IN THE REGISTRY

[Steph]

Originally posted by MichaelCHProd@Oct 9 2004, 06:30 AM
BE CAREFUL IN THE REGISTRY
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The System Restore tool is your friend..............

[MichaelCHProd]

When it works :D

[stelr]

I couldn't delete either file at first. Then I changed permissions to allow "full control." Then it allowed me to delete the HID folder, but still cannot delete the USB folder in RegEdit.

Can you elaborate on how you did this?

Thanks in advance.

v/r
Stel
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Stel
You need to R click the USB folder, choose "permissions" then add... your username, assuming you have admin priveliges. Then make sure your username has all the checkboxes ticked and you should be good to go.
Any probs, let me know and I'll post screenshots......
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Thanks Steph. I did that, giving myself full control, but no luck deleting the USB folder. It refuses to llet me delete it for some reason. Could it have something to do with my USB mouse being in use when I try to delete the USB folder?

v/r
Stel

[Steph]

Don't think so, but I did unplug all USB devices (didn't uninstall the software).

My Permisions looked like this when I couldn't delete the keys - stel1.jpg

[Steph]

Then I clicked "Add..." and typed "Administrators"
There is only one administrator on my machine, so it appended my name automagically

Then I was able to check the full control box and delete the key....... see stel2.jpg

[Steph]

Originally posted by MichaelCHProd@Oct 9 2004, 06:55 AM
When it worksÂ* :D
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Seems to be one of the bits of XP which DOES work as advertised!

[stelr]

Originally posted by Steph+Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM--><!--QuoteBegin-MichaelCHProd@Oct 9 2004, 06:55 AM
When it worksÂÂ* :D
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Seems to be one of the bits of XP which DOES work as advertised!
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Thanks Steph, but still doesn't work for me. I am an administrator om my machine also, and have "full control" selected but still no joy. :(

This is wierd!

If you or Michael have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, I'll keep checking back here.

Thanks in advance my friend!

v/r
Stel

[Bob Church]

Have you tried working from the bottom up, removing the subkeys first? It seems to me I recall that under XP you can't remove a key until you remove it's subkeys.

- Bob

The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com

[stelr]

Originally posted by Bob Church@Oct 9 2004, 03:44 PM
Have you tried working from the bottom up, removing the subkeys first? It seems to me I recall that under XP you can't remove a key until you remove it's subkeys.

- Bob

The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com
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You are BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

That did the trick. I finished following Michael's instructions per Steph's post and I am back up and flying!!

I want to thank all you guys for taking the time to help someone else out. Special thanks to Michael for figuring this whole SP2 snafu out; to Steph for posting Michael's instructions so clearly that even I could follow them; and finally to Bob Church (who has a very helpful website of his own, I might add).

Thank you all for being patient and so very very helpful.

Here's to ya guys! :cheers:

Very Respectfully,
Stel

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by Steph@Oct 9 2004, 01:41 AM
A BIG THANKS TO MICHAEL AND MY OLD MATE SMILINJACK!!!!!!!!

Followed the instructions and I'm in business. CH Manager now sees the Pro Throttle!

Only wrinkle I had was deleting the HID and USB keys in the registry - it wouldn't let me do it until I fiddled with the permissions, but everything is copacetic now.

A big thanks to Michael and the excellent CH customer support for solving a MICROSOFT problem!!!!
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Glad you're back in the air.
I also had to fiddle with the permissions, ended up having to change all the subkeys and primary key before XP let me delete same. I held off including that tidbit in the posting because I thought the description of the fix was already too long/somewhat confusing as it was.
Anyhow, glad it worked out for you.
SmilinJack

[stelr]

Originally posted by smilinjack+Oct 9 2004, 06:06 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-Steph@Oct 9 2004, 01:41 AM
A BIG THANKS TO MICHAEL AND MY OLD MATE SMILINJACK!!!!!!!!

Followed the instructions and I'm in business. CH Manager now sees the Pro Throttle!

Only wrinkle I had was deleting the HID and USB keys in the registry - it wouldn't let me do it until I fiddled with the permissions, but everything is copacetic now.

A big thanks to Michael and the excellent CH customer support for solving a MICROSOFT problem!!!!
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Glad you're back in the air.
I also had to fiddle with the permissions, ended up having to change all the subkeys and primary key before XP let me delete same. I held off including that tidbit in the posting because I thought the description of the fix was already too long/somewhat confusing as it was.
Anyhow, glad it worked out for you.
SmilinJack
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OMG! I forgot to thank you SmilinJack! You were the original poster. Apologies man. That permissions step really threw me until Bob's post. I called DEll with no luck, and they referred me to Micro$oft, who told me it couldn't be done because SP2 would prevent it. :rolleyes:

Anyway, your instructions were quite clear. I've just never messed with RegEdit before and was treading in unfamiliar territory..."lions and tigers and bears..Oh My!
:w00t:

Big salute to all you guys <S>! If you play IL2-FB, you got your target drone back.

v/r
Stel

[smilinjack]

Originally posted by stelr+Oct 10 2004, 05:48 AM-->Originally posted by smilinjack@Oct 9 2004, 06:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Steph@Oct 9 2004, 01:41 AM
A BIG THANKS TO MICHAEL AND MY OLD MATE SMILINJACK!!!!!!!!

Followed the instructions and I'm in business. CH Manager now sees the Pro Throttle!

Only wrinkle I had was deleting the HID and USB keys in the registry - it wouldn't let me do it until I fiddled with the permissions, but everything is copacetic now.

A big thanks to Michael and the excellent CH customer support for solving a MICROSOFT problem!!!!
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Glad you're back in the air.
I also had to fiddle with the permissions, ended up having to change all the subkeys and primary key before XP let me delete same. I held off including that tidbit in the posting because I thought the description of the fix was already too long/somewhat confusing as it was.
Anyhow, glad it worked out for you.
SmilinJack
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OMG! I forgot to thank you SmilinJack! You were the original poster. Apologies man. That permissions step really threw me until Bob's post. I called DEll with no luck, and they referred me to Micro$oft, who told me it couldn't be done because SP2 would prevent it. :rolleyes:

Anyway, your instructions were quite clear. I've just never messed with RegEdit before and was treading in unfamiliar territory..."lions and tigers and bears..Oh My!
:w00t:

Big salute to all you guys <S>! If you play IL2-FB, you got your target drone back.

v/r
Stel
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Stel,
No harm..no foul.
Yes, I'm an IL2-FB addict. Perhaps I'll "see" you over on that forum.
Anyhow, glad you're cured.
SmilinJack

[Typhoontony]

I've just gone through this exersize with Michael and I am back in business, :thumbsup: it is truly "Thanksgiving Day" here in the Great White North.
:cheers:
:cheers:
:cheers:
:drunk:

Thankyou Michael, the support offered by you, CH Products,& this board is truly outstanding :thumbsup:

Tony

[MichaelCHProd]

Thank you :cheers:

[Steph]

Originally posted by MichaelCHProd@Oct 11 2004, 08:19 PM
Thank youÂ* :cheers:
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Dontcha just love it when a plan comes together...........

[Krator]

Originally posted by Steph+Oct 11 2004, 08:50 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-MichaelCHProd@Oct 11 2004, 08:19 PM
Thank youÂÂ* :cheers:
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Dontcha just love it when a plan comes together...........
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Worked like a charm. Except for the part where I was deleting all my usb stuff and my cursor stopped moving. I forgot I just bought a new Logitech laser mouse with just a straight USB connector. So I did not get to finish deleting everything. But I rebooted and everything worked just fine. So I guess the few things I never got rid of did not matter.

A tip of the hat to he who found the solution to this problem. I owe you a round at the pub. :cheers:

[peterhayes]

Hi Bob
I would welcome some help, unfortunately I can't phone you too easily from OZ, but I tried the post as stated and CHCM ver 3.6 still couldn't find any game controllers. I guess I could phone you early in the AM or the late PM my time if that's OK?
Regards

PeterH

[Bob Church]

Hi Peter,

You'd really need to talk to Michael at CH, I'm not at the factory. He's usually around until 4PM Pacific Standard Time (GMT -8.00), I think you're 17 or 18 hours ahead of that. so you could probably get through to him around 9 or 10 AM your time. You might email him first and see about setting it up.

Before you do that, though, here's something you might want to try. The only change between V3.5 and V3.6 is in the GUI, CHCtlMgr.exe. If you install 3.6, look in the Control Manager folder, usually:

\Program Files\CH Products\Control Manager

and you should find CHCtlMgr.exe there (even if Windows can't find the devices). Copy that file out to some other location temporarily. Restore V3.5 like you've been doing, then copy the V3.6 CHCtlMgr.exe file back into the CM folder to replace the 3.5 version. You'll end in exactly the same situation as you would if the 3.6 install had worked, and since your devices are working under 3.5 they'll still be working under 3.6. There's no need to calibrate, or even restart the machine. Just replace the file and go.

Best regards,

- Bob

The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com

[peterhayes]

Hi Bob
Many Thanks. Too easy. It worked perfectly. (sorry to mix you up with Michael it must be due to the time difference)

PeterH

[Kakuli]

Can some one please help me and explain to me how to fix this problem, i did not understant what to delete and where are the files, i don't want to delete anything important from my PC. I don't understand very well about computers and i don't understand why i need to know so much about software when all i want to do is fly with my 360$ worth CH HOTAS (stick+throttle+pedals)? Don't i and all other CH customers deserve a patch or a new control manager that will work? I know that some of you may laugh and say "it's so easy to fix, all you need to do is..." well to me it's like chinese. All i know is that i'm not flying three days already and the way things are going i will probably will not be flying with my CH HOTAS for the next three months. I realy don't want to go back to my X-45, i am already deeply in love with my CH HOTAS. Please help!
:rant:

[MichaelCHProd]

It's not us guy :(

It is Service Pack 2 from Microshaft. They did it and it would have been nice if they warned you but... they didn't. It would have been nice if they foudn a fix for this when so many people had this problem (not just CH owners and not just game controllers) but... they didn't.

If the instructions above are a little too high speed low drag for you then call CH's Tech Support....

760-598-7833 Mon-Fri 0800-1600 PST (-8 GMT)

It is not my bug but by god I'll fix it. :salute:

[4./JG53_Wotan]

I read through this thread and I think I understand everything I need to do but I have little confidence in my own ability to 'fix things'. When it comes to computers I always seem to find a way top break things.

So to help my confidence I will run through my problem and hopefully some one can confirm what its is I need to do to get things working again...

In preparation to install the CM 4.0 I unplugged the controllers (Pro-throttle, Pro-Pedals, Fighterstick all USB), ran CH delete then un-installed CM 3.5.

I re-booted, installed CM 4.0, rebooted again.

I then began plugging in the controllers 1 at a time. I first plugged in the Pro-Throttle and everything went fine. The Hardware Wizard started and the drivers detected and installed (controller and HID).

I then plugged in the Pro-Pedals and waited for the Hardware Wizard, nothing happened. I went into 'Control Pane'l and checked both under "Game Controllers" where 'CH PRO- PEDALS USB' was listed in caps and in the' Device Manager' where nothing is listed under CH Products. Under 'Human Interface Devices' there is/was a second entry. This second entry dissappears when I unplug / remove the PEDALS.

I fiddled around removing the controllers with CH delete, rebooting and even re-installing CM 4 running the 'New Hardware Wizard' etc...

I tried updating the driver for the the listing under HID and still no go.

I then moved on to the Fighterstick (USB) and ran into the same thing.

Here are some images (click on thumbnail):

Game Controllers:

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/334_1125766397_ch1.jpg (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=24478)

CM 4

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/334_1125766372_ch2.jpg (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=24477)

Device Manager:

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/334_1125766343_ch3.jpg (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=24476)

Registry (HK_Local_Machine/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/ENUM):

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/334_1125766314_ch4.jpg (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=24475)

Do I delete the entire HID and USB folders? What about other USB devices I have installed? Should I un-install / unplug those as well?

Will following the instructions in this thread get me fixed up?

Is there anyhting I should be aware that might cause me to run into other issues?

TIA

Regards,

Wotan

[4./JG53_Wotan]

I went ahead and followed the instructions in the first post.

I first did a reg export / backup and turned on sytem restore and created a restore point. To my surprise everything worked exactly as written above.

It was completely 'painless' and everything works fine.

Thank you for this thread.

Wotan

[maddirk]

Hi all,
I had the fighterstick and the CM4.0 installed before I got the rudder paddles.
All the instructions above were followed obediently, but it didn't work for me :rant: :
I could not delete HID/USB reg folders completely. There was a chproducts folder in my control panel /system/hardware that I also tried deleting after several unsuccessful runs of described procedure. This let me reinstall cm40 (again) completely including great long new hid installation messages that were not appearing before deinstalling chproducts, but still no luck. No COMBINED entry or alternate low/high case letters in the system/game controller list.
I went into CM through all wizard options for just one device, did download button click successfully... and no changed game controller entries appeared in the control panel at all.
The "calibrate" option in CM is not accessible, just switches to xp game controller calibration but calibrating the paddles in control panel\game controllers does not work because it needs a button to confirm and the rudder paddles have only axes.
In other words, I really really need someone to help me out.
Please someone totally clever make a start to better humankind ! :thumbsup:
Thanks,
maddirk
P.S.: I will not reinstall all of XP because everything else is just so. :salute:
P.P.S.: Although I do get funny messages that I should be having Admin rights... but I do and have checked so in the control panel/users twice thorougly :(

[maddirk]

Hi, me again after another goooood read of the thread discovering the "right click choose permissions and enable changes" registry advice. Done and proceeded as in original sticky message and it all works !!!! I am in tears, almost.
Thank you everyone and sorry for being impatient.
:cheers: :thumbsup: :w00t: :luv: :cheers: :drool:

[MichaelCHProd]

No worries brother :)

[maddirk]

No worries brother :)
[/b]


ta, mate
you can call me red baron now.... :drool: :cheers:

[jlau]

To Steph and others who have suffered with the "XP SP2 Bug", symptom thereof the dreaded "No Devices Found" message in Control Manager V-xx, my session with Michael directing solved the problem.
The solution (on my machine at least):
1) Unplug all CH Controllers
2) Via REGEDIT, go to HK_Local_Machine/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/ENUM--
Delete the HID and USB folders

Cant delete folders. ;)

My PC is Vista 32 bit.

What should I do next?

Thanks !

[Bob Church]

Hi jlau,

You need to right-click the folder and grant full permissions to everyone to delete the folders, something new with Vista. If this is a new installation of the CM though, open the CM GUI first and click the Test/Calibrate button. Down in the lower-left corner is a button labelled "Rescan". Click that and see if you get New Hardware dialogs and the devices reinstall. I don't know for sure, but I've never heard of the XP2 bug in Vista.

OTOH, any new install is subject ot rearrangement of the controllers after the first Windows restart. If you plugged the controllers in for the first time and then installed without restarting Windows first, then the "No Active Devices" messages is fairly common. The installer put the controllers under the CM drivers, the restart moves the controllers around (logically speaking) and so they aren't the ones that the CM saw initially (again, logically speaking). The rescan asks Vista to run through all the devices and move any of the CH controllers it finds that are running under the standard Windows drivers to run under the CM drivers again.

If it finds any, you'll probably get New Hardware messages. It may ask you to insert the manufacturers disk. DON'T DO IT! It's really looking for the Windows disk, the Control Manager installer should only be run the first time, after that it's looking for Windows files that either weren't installed initially, probably because there was no hardware that required them, or it's found drivers that aren't those that came with the Vista install. This happens a lot with DirectX stuff. Usually what will happen is you'll put the disk in and it will tell you there a newer version already on the HD and suggest you keep it. If you ever get that message, you should always keep the newer file rather than having Windows reload the earlier file from the installation CD. Loading the earlier file will almost certainly cause problems.

Best regards,

- Bob

The StickWorks
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