New product

[lawndart]

Rev locked the most relevant thread so I decided start a new one.

MFD - Too many different variations in reality to be practical IMHO. Master pilot was neat but not THAT neat and the advent of clickable cockpits kind of renders the point of an external MFD, moot.

Game Pad - Game pads are for platforms kiddies.

Force Feedback - If it were an FFB yoke, I'd be all over it. Pass on anything else.

Now....

F-15/F-18 style throttle - Oh, to have a split throttle suitable for combat flight sims! The electronics are done for this one already (TQ guts). All we need is the plastic. I hope we see this one come to reality.

PSB

[531_Ghost]

Now....

F-15/F-18 style throttle - Oh, to have a split throttle suitable for combat flight sims! The electronics are done for this one already (TQ guts). All we need is the plastic. I hope we see this one come to reality.

PSB
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Me too!
:cheers:

[Debby]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lawndart @ Feb 19 2006, 06:42 PM) 18999

Now....

F-15/F-18 style throttle - Oh, to have a split throttle suitable for combat flight sims! The electronics are done for this one already (TQ guts). All we need is the plastic. I hope we see this one come to reality.

PSB
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Me too!
:cheers:
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Me three!! ;)

[Revvin]

Make me four cos Debby already has the team working on a one-off USB Force FX for me...right Debby? :D

[lawndart]

I did an injection molding project back in college, it was an eye opener and that was back in the mid 1990&#39;s. I shudder to think what the tooling costs would be. There would be several thousand dollars of die work to be done. Depending on how CH works their books and if they have a captive tool and die facility, then it just becomes a matter of material costs. At least that is how I get billed for fixture work where I am. The tool room is there to be utilized, I just have to buy the steel.

I know I&#39;ll buy one, but how many hundred or even thousands of units have to go out the door to make it a viable product?

[Debby]

Make me four cos Debby already has the team working on a one-off USB Force FX for me...right Debby? :D
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Right, Rev!

I have a team on it ...


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[Revvin]

ROFL

[Corsair8X]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Revvin @ Feb 21 2006, 03:00 PM) 19017

Make me four cos Debby already has the team working on a one-off USB Force FX for me...right Debby? :D
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Right, Rev!

I have a team on it ...


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Is it just me or do those monkeys look as surly as Teamsters?

[MrMudd]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Debby @ Feb 23 2006, 03:55 PM) 19082



Make me four cos Debby already has the team working on a one-off USB Force FX for me...right Debby? :D
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Right, Rev!

I have a team on it ...


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Is it just me or do those monkeys look as surly as Teamsters?
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From Left to Right...

Debby, Mike, Steve, John and Glenn.

Of Couse we ran out of Turtle Wax for Johns noggen.




I did an injection molding project back in college, it was an eye opener and that was back in the mid 1990&#39;s. I shudder to think what the tooling costs would be. There would be several thousand dollars of die work to be done. Depending on how CH works their books and if they have a captive tool and die facility, then it just becomes a matter of material costs. At least that is how I get billed for fixture work where I am. The tool room is there to be utilized, I just have to buy the steel.

I know I&#39;ll buy one, but how many hundred or even thousands of units have to go out the door to make it a viable product?
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IF your Building molds ala 1980&#39;s Conventional Methods yes, your labor costs and trial and error to recreate the features will be astronomical.

IF your building Molds ALA Virtual Modeling and CNC 5 Axis. What takes a year takes me 2 weeks.

I visited CH Last Week, Their Tool Makers are no Slouch, Same People for the past 25 years. Very knowledgeable about their products. and very good at what they do.

[fatb0y60]

A thread over at FO sparked an interest in me to come back here (after that thread a while ago with the poll) and see how its going.
Ive come a little way now from that thread with my HOrnet hotas...The stick is well underway, up to the stage of electronics now. and the Hornet pit is starting up slowly but surely and and ive heard a rumour about a new product comming out from an unnamed brand...
my response to this thread is this is what the ultimate is (below)
grated its maybe not realistic to get this much realism, (that is the exact arc etc)

http://www.mpcproducts.com/flightdeck_throttle.asp

click on the second pic from the top, not to hard to figure out how to get it going.


I think its also good to note here...
it was argued in that other thread that fingerlifts are to much...I just wanted to let people know that since that time ive had a good go in a real hornet simulator and therefore got to have a good wack at the real throttles. the throttle uses AB detents and the fingerlifts are for returning the throttle back past idle to turn off the engines. so you dont accidently turn them off.

I'd say this...If there was to be a dual split throttle hotas on the market soon, obviously from my end uber realism is the best, however things like finger lifts arnt needed for the ave joe. I would hoever like provisions for growth by the end user. What I mean is if you recall the suncom throttle, the grips are cups (if you will) with the throttle leavers that screw onto the inside..this I think made no sense at all lol, but I will try to clarify. I would want to use the (acurate) grips and circuitry to use my own leaver and finger lift system. that is unless it came super tits already. but I guess at this stage its all just speculation as to weather or not someone is bringing one out isnt it? :p

[DonULFonso]

I shouldn't have to repeat it, but that's exactly why I do repeat it ;) : an F-15- or F-18-style split-throttle is something many Thrustmaster-owners :D would sell their first-borns for :rolleyes: !

[NamelessPlayer]

I'd almost kill for a CH-made F-15-style throttle that has everything the actual throttle has, from depressable analog TDC hats to an actual rotary for antenna elevation to an actual two-way pinky switch to finger lifts, all in addition to Control Manager support.

All of those things are sorely lacking from my Suncom SFS Throttle, and while that could be corrected by slipping Pro Throttle electronics inside(I'd use the analog stick axes for the other lever and the replacement of the antenna elevation rocker with an actual rotary), it still seems kind of half-baked when you look in the CM and see a Pro Throttle instead of your modded SFS.

[Corsair8X]

I shouldn't have to repeat it, but that's exactly why I do repeat it ;) : an F-15- or F-18-style split-throttle is something many Thrustmaster-owners :D would sell their first-borns for :rolleyes: !

Yes, that may very well be a killing-blow to TM. Many of them cling to the "unrealistic" throttle idea (something I got over pretty quick btw). That would deflate any argument they could have at that point, 'cause it certainly ain't for reliability. I was on the thread that fatboy came from. One guy was saying how much he loved his Cougar (of course that was after he spent the *extra*money on the modifications to the stick). Maybe if I offered to pay nearly twice as much for my TM right at the outset maybe they would have given me something that actually worked correctly out of the box.

Oh well, they do make attractive bookends - expensive ones but nice.