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charliefoxtrot
14th June 2004, 06:41 PM
Will the gameport CH pedals work with my gameport MS Force Feedback Pro joystick on XP Pro? If so, should I try to use the CMC? My only app is MSFS2002.
Thanks!

MichaelCHProd
15th June 2004, 12:13 AM
No, if you are trying to use them connected to the joystick.

No, if you are using the pedals as stand alone controllers in a game that does not support multiple joystick inputs.

No, a CMC file is for the Control Manager and the Control Manager is only for use with CH USB.

Now if you setup your Pro Pedals as stand alone and you are playing a game that supports multiple joystick inputs (MFS 2002 does) and you are using the CH Analog Drivers then you can get them to work BUT only if your Windows XP PC has a decent 15 pin game port.

charliefoxtrot
15th June 2004, 03:17 PM
Thanks! That's good info.
CF
"The officers say CharlieFoxtrot, we enlisted say something else for a bad situation getting worse."

charliefoxtrot
29th June 2004, 02:10 AM
One more thing, I've got CH pedals, not CH Pro. Is that going to work? When installing the analog drivers from the web site, only CH Pro Pedals were listed. The pedals (new in the box) did not include a driver disk. The calibration screen includes toe brake settings which is incorrect for the CH pedals.

Any ideas?

Thanks
CF

MichaelCHProd
29th June 2004, 07:17 AM
CH Pedals..... all bets are off, no stand alone mode, no compatibiltiy with MS stick, and no options. If you can.. return them.

charliefoxtrot
9th July 2004, 04:54 PM
I am unable to return them. If I were to throw good money after bad, what stick, if any would work with the CH pedals?

Keeping in mind I can rent N3974Q (an IFR C172 wet) for $85, should I have spent the money on a real aircraft and not a kid's game?

MichaelCHProd
9th July 2004, 05:14 PM
The "kids" game will prevent you from killing yourself if there is a problem in "flight", N3974Q will not :)

Finding a true analog gameport stick from CH is going to be hard as we don't make them anymore. You could check the point of sale on the pedals as they obviously have "legacy" controllers from us.

charliefoxtrot
12th July 2004, 08:21 PM
OK, Michael, let's punt the joystick. I've got an opportunity to buy a CH Virtual Pilot Pro, gameport. Any conflicts there?

BTW: on the risks of the docile Cessna 74Quebec, it likes to fly as much as I do!

MichaelCHProd
12th July 2004, 08:39 PM
With XP you are now looking at a 50/50 chance.

If you have a decent 15 pin port you can get our Analog Drivers from the site and you should be able to use both.

charliefoxtrot
9th August 2004, 08:02 PM
Good news! Mostly! My pedals work fine as do all buttons and axes on the yoke except fore and aft (elevator). After numerous attempts to calibrate the CH Virtual Pilot Pro, I'm unable to register full range of elevator motion. In the game device calibration window, it shows a range from full foward to nearly neutral. Do you have specs and/or pin maps to bench test the pots or is there a software diagnostic to rule out a hardware problem?

Thanks,
CF

Bob Church
9th August 2004, 11:25 PM
Check that the elevator trim wheel is centered before you calibrate. If it's way off, it will do what you describe.

- Bob

The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com

charliefoxtrot
10th August 2004, 01:11 AM
Bob,
Thanks. That's the perfect way to describe the symptom.
Sadly, that ain't the fix for this little problem.

CF

Bob Church
10th August 2004, 02:31 AM
Well, I don't know what it might be, then. The trim wheel actually moves the pot internally and it can get so far off center that you can lose most of one direction or another. If that's not it, though, I'd guess you need to talk to Michael about a repair. Since you've got half range, the gameport must be working and all the pieces of the system must be talking to each other. That only leaves mechanical problems (unless the yoke actually disconnects at full back elevator (or max throttle or full right aileron). That means that the gameport is too slow for the machine. Other than that, somthing pretty much has to be wrong with the mechanics that move the pot.

- Bob

The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com

charliefoxtrot
13th August 2004, 06:50 PM
Bob,
You're a dang genius! It was a mechanical problem. The wimpy little link between the trim wheel pushrod and the pot's adjustment lever was disconnected. This must have happened to many of these units. A little redesign took care of the problem and the unit works fine.

Now if I could just nail those x-wind landings...

Thanks again to you and Michael.

Happy landings.

CF