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N109GE
23rd June 2004, 09:06 PM
Hello,
Is there any way of programming the CH yoke to change the prop from foward pitch to reverse ptich. I know I am able to do this , using the "page down" key on the keyboard. Also is there any way to also make the prop go from full foward to the feather position using the prop control. I think the keyboard key is " Ctrl + F2.
Thank you,
Kevin. ;)
Bob Church
23rd June 2004, 10:23 PM
>> Is there any way of programming the CH yoke to change the prop from foward pitch to reverse ptich. I know I am able to do this , using the "page down" key on the keyboard. Also is there any way to also make the prop go from full foward to the feather position using the prop control. I think the keyboard key is " Ctrl + F2. <<
I'm not too familiar with the details of the prop pitch, but you can assign the lever to work pitch in FS as an analog value and it seems to work. If you really need the characters to do what you want, you can set up a little CMS file to do that, too. The control puts out a value of 0 at full forward to 255 at full back. If you wanted to trip a character at somewhere near full back, for example, you could add the CMS controls to your map then write a script that looked something like this:
script
cms.b1 = [ js1.a4 > 250 ];
endScript
The cms.b1 button would turn on when the lever was very near fully back and you could program the button to send the characters up in the GUI.
Anyway, it can probably be done, but we need a few more details of how you want it to work. Are you using analog pitch, what characters need to be sent and at approximately what lever position you want the characters sent.
- Bob
The StickWorks
http://www.stickworks.com
MichaelCHProd
24th June 2004, 01:16 AM
What did I tell you "N109GE".....
if you post it... they will come
and now everybody can see how to do it not just you. :)
thanks for joining and posting. :salute:
N109GE
24th June 2004, 03:02 PM
Michael,
Thank you very much for your kind advice.
Mr. Church,
Thank you for replying to my message. You ask.....
" but we need a few more details of how you want it to work. Are you using analog pitch, what characters need to be sent and at approximately what lever position you want the characters sent. "
What I am trying to do is to have the throttle lever put the props into a reverse pitch as if I were hold my finger on the "Page Down" button once I have landed.
The next thing I am looking into is to have the prop control, when pulled all the way back will put the blades into a 0* ptich to simulate a feathered prop.
I would think that the last 1/4 of travel on either lever would be enough. As far as "using analog" I am lost. If you want to explain it to me. I will then look into it.
I am using the CH yoke with the three levers (USB).
Thank you for you time.
Kevin Michael :salute:
MichaelCHProd
24th June 2004, 04:22 PM
You are using analog for the throttle and prop. You just want to send a keystroke when you hit the bottom of the throttle and props travel.
For that you would need to go into the GUI and program CMS Button 1 to "KBPGDN" and CMS Button 2 to "CTL F2".
Then enter this script in the CM Editor ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/CM_CMS-Editor.jpg...
SCRIPT
CMS.B1 = [ JS1.A3 > 250 ];
CMS.B2 = [ JS1.A4 > 250 ];
ENDSCRIPT[/b]
N109GE
24th June 2004, 04:56 PM
Michael,
You make it sound easy...I'll try it tonight. Thanks, I will let you know.
Kevin :thumbsup:
MichaelCHProd
25th June 2004, 09:18 PM
What you want to do is Load ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/CM_Load.jpg your map.
Make sure you have the CMS Controls in the map. If you don't then Add ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/CM_Add.jpg them. Select CMS Controls.. (bottom of list)
ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/CM_Add_Screen.jpg
Then you what to click on the tab for CMS Controls and program button 1...
ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/MFS2004_TR_CMS-B1.jpg
Then program button 2...
ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/MFS2004_TR_CMS-B2.jpg
Then open the CM Editor ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/CM_CMS-Editor.jpg
Now type in the script I showed you from above...
ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/Postings/MFS2004_TR_CM-Editor.jpg
Save your map and then download it.
N109GE
29th June 2004, 08:28 PM
Hello Mike,
I believe the reverse thrust works based on seeing the difference in prop RPM. What I would like to do is increase the range. How do I do this? Also, I noticed the prop feather did not work. I think I need the "command" to say Ctrl+F2 what do you think. The reason I am asking is that you need the two buttons in order for the feathering to work as on the key board.
Thanks.
Kevin :rolleyes:
MichaelCHProd
29th June 2004, 09:11 PM
You could change the "CTL F2" to read "HOLD CTL F2".
N109GE
29th June 2004, 09:40 PM
Hi Mike,
"You could change the "CTL F2" to read "HOLD CTL F2".
I will switch it to read what you wrote above. My question now is do I need it to read CTRL or CTL. Does it matter? And how do I increase or decrease the travel I want it to take effect on the lever travel.
Thanks a Billion
Kevin :salute:
MichaelCHProd
29th June 2004, 09:44 PM
"CTL" is the correct syntax.
N109GE
30th June 2004, 07:01 PM
Hi Mike,
Back to the drawing board. I still can't get the prop to reverse when I pull the throttle full aft. Is there a way to increase the range to activate say 1/4 before full aft.
Then I need to tackle the prop feather...that dosen't work at all.
Thanks Mike.
Kevin :rant:
MichaelCHProd
30th June 2004, 09:17 PM
Post your current map.
N109GE
1st July 2004, 03:04 PM
Mike,
Here is the current map, as you requested.
CMS SCRIPT FILE
GAME TITLE: MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004
WRITTEN BY: MICHAEL SEXTON
DATE: 2004-6-24
SCRIPT
CMS.B1 = [JS1.A3 > 250];
CMS.B2 = [JS1.A4 > 250];
Mike just wondering, does the new quad throttle have detents on the controls?
Kevin :wacko:
MichaelCHProd
1st July 2004, 04:44 PM
Yes the new Throttle Quad does have detents on each of the six levers.
What I wanted was not just the script but both of your files. The *.cms and the *.map.
N109GE
1st July 2004, 05:07 PM
Michael,
I will send it tonight, you should see it in the morning.
Thank you.
Kevin :lol:
MichaelCHProd
1st July 2004, 05:28 PM
It's all good :)
N109GE
2nd July 2004, 04:08 PM
Ok Michael,
Here is what I want to do. I want to start from the begining and I will wait for the
new throttle quad to be released. Once I get the new throttle quad, then I will
start to program. Now how, do I re-programe the yoke back to the original
settings?
PS. Have a great 4th. :thumbsup:
MichaelCHProd
2nd July 2004, 09:54 PM
If you just want the defualts then all you have to do is not load a map in the Control Manager.
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